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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Accidental eye contact is my favorite scenario too. I figured that was where the thing in the evil twin defense bit came from, and I quite like it like that I think. I think personally, I'd have the eye contact scene happen before that, and maybe even have Foggy having dismissed it. He was drinking too, there was low light in the bar (or wherever they were) and why the hell would someone lie about that anyway? So he's been assuming for a few weeks that he must have been mistaken, but at the same time not been quite able to get it out of his head. Then when Matt says this completely unexpected and random thing about having a twin he's never mentioned before, the whole think comes flooding back and he thinks that if Matt could make up something like this, couldn't he, just possibly, have told this other huge lie too?

It could work with the bar scene after too, but once Matt's planted the identical twin think in his head, he's probably going to be thinking about it all the time, looking for differences in the behavior of the 'Matt' he's with and might even be subconsciously looking for proof one way or another. Matt's told him his brother's impersonating him, so Foggy might view 'Matt' apparently being able to see as proof he's with Mike instead, and start asking trying to catch him out. Which could be fun too, actually, but it would negate the Foggy thinking Matt's lying about being blind thing.

All good points about their practice and their knowledge level etc, and having some kind of experience would account for that, but when would Foggy have done that, do you think? The most likely time would be after undergrad, before law school, which would mean Matt and Foggy did meet at law school, unless Matt found himself a job too, or they would have graduated at different times. Of course, could't they have accumulated a good chunk of this knowledge while the were interning at Landman and Zack? I don't have much knowledge of any of this stuff, and it sounds like you do, so I'll defer to your judgement on it.

No, they haven't mentioned Rosalind Sharpe, I'm assuming she isn't the mom that wanted Foggy to be a butcher! I wish they would give us some back story on him so we don't have to guess and extrapolate from the comics and the few hints we are given! I don't think they're going to give us much though...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-21 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Evil twin defense is an actual real legal defense - they use it to cast doubt that the one being accused actually did the crime. Nope, wasn't me, was this guy with the exact same looks and DNA... LOL Of course, it only works if you're a twin, and even then, good luck... (Yeah, I geek out over legal stuff... But, I'm not qualified to give legal advice and the only legal courses I have taken are undergrad ones. I have a paralegal degree. Which really just gives me enough knowledge to know there's a lot I don't know. LOL. I'm not any kind of expert.)

I like where you're going with Foggy assessing the differences, trying to catch him up... Maybe Mike was outside, listening? With the super-senses Matt doesn't know he has? (After all, he'd just left...)

In the real world, I don't think the internship would've given them enough knowlege. I get the impression there's a reason why more experienced partners oversee the junior associates. After law school, there's still a ton more to learn about whatever you specialize in, I think. I never hear of attorneys, fresh out of law school just hanging their own shingle. But, maybe it happens and I just don't know about it. Maybe it shouldn't matter enough since it's a fic for our entertainment? But, maybe Matt and Foggy are different ages and just happen to now be the same year in school? That, and, say, helping out at his mother's firm, that could just be a part-time summer gig or once in a while on the weekends... Maybe even when he was in high school... There's plenty of little things you could give a teen to do, like filing (not with the court, but sorting all the paper that accumulates, etc.)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's very cool. Maybe it could even be worked into the story, like once Matt and Foggy find out that ike is Daredevil, Foggy could suggest it as a defense if he ever gets arrested for vigilanteism. Matt would be unimpressed with the idea of offering himself up as a suspect, plus nobody would believe it could be him anyway.

If you have any kind of qualification in it, you know a hell of a lot more than me. I did my degree in European Studies, mostly to try to learn as many languages as I could and have a year overseas. Fun, but not something I use much now, unfortunately.

Mike could totally be outside. He might have left in a hurry because he noticed Matt approaching, and then hung out somewhere to check he hadn't been noticed. I guess there's a chance that Matt could find him now he's aware he's around, but with all the other people in the dorm it's very unlikely.

It probably does happen, but you don't her about it because they quickly go out of business! But I don't know, I don't see why it couldn't happen, if they did their research first and accepted they would be learning as they went (and kept their fee appropriately low as a result!). They started off very small, so it's not like they'd have had a huge workload. Especially if Foggy had this extra experience, and yeah it could have been in high school, I didn't think of that. And it's totally possible that Matt and Foggy aren't the same age, that could explain a lot. I mean, Foggy doesn't seem particularly mature student-like in the flashback scenes, and at that age a few years can make a huge difference, but it's totally possible he's older than he appears. (Elden Henson's older than Charlie Cox anyway, so it fits, sort of..)

(Very quick post before I leave for work, not read your other post yet, I'll look at lunch.)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
LOL I hadn't even thought of that! (Oh, and I know very little about criminal law - my program didn't focus on that. I did have a prof. who was a criminal law atty., but I had him for constitutional law. So, like, the evil twin defense was just something I read somewhere, I think.)

I'm actually back in school again - this time for Business Information Systems... at my new school, I think a lot of my 'legal' classes transfered in as politcal science credits. (They must have, because I have a ton of them.) *shrugs* European Studies sounds like an adventure. :) I originally had started out as an accounting major - your way of going about things with a year abroad sounds a lot more fun...

I got to thinking - maybe Foggy's mother had parial custody, so when it was her turn, he'd spend a lot of time waiting around for her at their firm, so they put him to work, and it just sort of goes from there. ('Hey, kid, can you make some copies?') So, over time, he just picks up some skills. LOL. Poor thing.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a very good idea, he might also have overheard snippets of conversations that sounded interesting, maybe read the stuff he was copying, picked up a bit of what was going on and decided it sounded like it'd be interesting to do more than the photocopying. And if Mom and dad weren't that friendly, it's entirely possible that Dad and stepmom would try to encourage him To try something other than the law to give her less in common with his mom or maybe just so that he has options. Hence thinking beoming a butcher is such a great idea! Though I do kind of think it's more likely someone said it to him once as a career option when he was a kid or something though and it just stuck in his head for whatever reason.

Wow, that sounds like a pretty heavy course. What kind of thing does it involve? Are you enjoying it? European studies was a lot of fun, really interesting too, and I learned a few languages, which are always useful, but apart from that it's not something you can do a lot with. Not that I regret it or anything. If I went back in time, I'd do the exact same thing.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking... What if Mike's been sort of having Foggy do his laundry? lol As in, Mike has been wearing some of Matt's clothes - otherwise Matt would have noticed that he one day has a much bigger wardrobe? So Mike's been tossing his dirty laundry in the hamper before laundry day. (And he doesn't care which exact laundry he gets back, because it's all really Matt's anyway, well, save the guady items with the improper labels he's been adding... So, later he just grabs whatever and shoves it in his "school" bag...) So, away, Foggy is is bit miffed that he had to stay longer at the laudramat to do an extra load or two.

I like the courses so far. In my systems analysis and design course this semester, we even get to be creative. My final group project we're designing an ERP system for a pretend business. This summer I'm learning healthcare informatics and in the fall I'll be learning a lot about databases and business intelligence. It's weird - as a paralegal student, there were maybe 3 guys in the whole program. Now, as a BIS major, it's almost flipped. (One of my classes, I think I may be the only female in it. lol.)

Oh, and I like the stuff about the tug-of-war with Mom & Dad. LOL (g2g, lunch goes by so quick. lol)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, poor Foggy. Why does Matt have him doing his laundry though? Or do they just share a hamper and throw it all in together and take turns? (If that's the case, Foggy would probably have to be then responsible for separating things out afterward) I honestly don't know how that would work, I never had a roommate at uni, it's not really a thing that happens here. But yeah, that could be funny, especially when Foggy finds out about Mike and it turns out the think he's most pissed about isn't being lied to, or the fact that he 'borrowed' a bunch of his text books, but those extra loads of laundry he had to do!

Strange how certain things attract different genders. It's a shame really, you'd think society should be past that by now, but there are definitely some jobs seen as for men and some as for women by large groups of people. I think things will look very different in a few generations..! :-)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-22 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking that they had separate hampers. They could be the kind that have wheels. (I live in an apartment complex and don't have a personal laundry hook up so my SO goes to his parents to do laundry - probably what inspired it.) Anyway, I was thinking that it's hard to navigate with a cane and the wheels, plus, the college laundromat is always crowded and I bet it'd be really hard to tell which machines are free and which are filled with laundry waiting to go to the next step. (At one of my old apartments, I would do my laundry at the shared coin machines... This girl would leave her stuff unattended in the machines. The load was done, but it was just sitting there... grr...) Oh, and maybe he really had to feel around inside to make sure it was empty? He couldn't just look. (At least, not when Foggy's there.)

I was thinking Foggy, having went with Matt the first time and seeing how difficult it was decided he'd do it to be nice, and Matt only had a little bit. (Didn't he arrive with only one bag?) Matt probably paid him in laundry detergent and coins for both their loads. (& Maybe Matt folded all their clothes sometimes?) It's just when things were getting bogged down with stupid that maybe Foggy cared. LOL. (I'm thinking Mike picked up those awful clothes at Salvation Army real cheap... Maybe one of the collared shirts is this ugly floral number that Mike decides he actually likes. lol.)

Yeah, I don't really get why there aren't a lot of women. Honestly, I was expecting somewhere closer to a 50/50 split and was shocked. There also isn't much of the older returning crowd either - usually they're going back for accounting, it seems. (Why would you want to go for accounting, you poor, poor, soul, I keep thinking. LOL Though, it is useful, and I'm sure they're thinking the same about me.) I think it's the possibility of maybe having to learn some programming languages and/or computer science that scares away the women. (Which neither is actually required, but yeah, it's a good idea to get some background in one or both.) Really, everything is logical in my major and just sounds scarier than it is. :)

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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[personal profile] prepare4trouble 2016-04-22 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This all makes total sense. It's been a while since I used a laundromat, those occasions I have, I've gone at stupid times to avoid the crowds. But yeah, in a busy one, Matt would definitely have trouble. They could maybe go together sometimes, because I bet Matt wouldn't want to feel like Foggy was having to help him with stuff, but other times Foggy might just do it for him, maybe because Matt's got loads to do or whatever, and since Foggy's going anyway, no harm in just taking the extra load too. But when that extra load gets bigger, it turns into a bit of a pain. Plus, when Mike does revel himself, he can thank Foggy for being such a good maid or something and really piss him off! hehe.

Oh yes on cheap, second hand clothes. I bet Mike gets all his stuff somewhere like that, and he saves the worst ones for Matt. But Mike deciding he likes one of them is ace. And maybe Foggy sees him in it one time after he knows about him, and for a second thinks it's Matt, and that Mike's got him again!

Weirdly, I know a few people who have gone back to school to do accounting. It must be a thing people do..!



Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
A really sad thing people do! :p (I know, I was one, the first time around for quite a bit...)

I love Foggy upset about a few loads of laundry... I imagine them as reluctant friends, or pretend frenemies eventually.

LOL Yes - even after Matt's out of the awful clothes, Foggy still associating that with him, too... OMG Love it.
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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[personal profile] prepare4trouble 2016-04-23 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, just noticed the anon fail. Do we have to be anon here? Was late at night and I forgot I was logged in. Sigh.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's easier, I can start logging in - I've had a dream-width account since 2009... Just never used it for anything much, really. lol (Was more of a LiveJournal-er back in the day... Was just checking on my old lj intro page I wrote in '08 - it talks about me reading Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr... law nerd... Omg...embarrassing...)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Can do, logged in can be easier for tracking stuff, but makes no real difference. I only got a dreamwidth account very recently, I'm still on livejournal, been there since about 2004. I just imported my blog over because I know a few people on here and it gives you the option to copy your entries to both blogs in one go. I figure with 12 years of entries I really don't want to lose, it doesn't hurt to have a backup.
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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[personal profile] stardreamed 2016-04-23 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's cool. I may have to think about that importing thing.