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prepare4trouble

I don't know if that was my first, but my parents would often give us something on special occasions. Like a really weak shandy or a sip of wine or whatever. And one time a friend of mine raised her parents' liquor cabinet and poured a bunch of random stuff into a flask together and brought it to school, really gross, but we drank it before drama class. Only a few sips, then we thought we were drunk, but we really weren't! I never really liked it til I was much older though, at uni. I remember hating beer the first time I had it. Never went to a house party at that kind of age though. But I know a few kids who did in their mid teens, the stories they told about them used to scare me! But they were probably made up. :)

Yes, Matt would be a total foodie. I bet he can always recommend the best restaurants, and they're never the places you'd expect to be amazing but they totally are. He never seems to have food in his apartment though. But he does have random stuff like baking soda when Stick needed it after Elektra was stabbed. So I bet he cooks too sometimes.

I wonder what Matt actually eats most of the time though. The first episode when Karen's at his apartment he has literally no food to offer her. I bet he never keeps his kitchen stocked. He can't eat out or order takeout all the time, he wouldn't be able to afford it. Do you think he does the student thing and just boils up some rice and chilli powder or something? Or forgets to eat a lot of the time, maybe.

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stardreamed

LOL I think I assumed because you said you were eight. My bad. My parents never exposed us much to it. (The first wine my mother let me have I had asked for a glass. It was the kind that comes in a box. lol I forget how old I was, but it was old enough to drive.) The house party was pretty chill. It was like the normal hanging out, but a few more guests and there was alcohol. *shrugs* I stayed the night and helped her clean up the next day. Her parents came back to a home that was cleaner than when they left. :) My friends from my high school would have been shocked. I was voted "class angel" for the high school superlatives in the senior year book. I'd met the friend who threw the party when I was working at a grocery store after school in the next town over. One of the older ladies would teasingly refer to us as the angel and the devil, because she was sort of trouble & I'm really not. LOL

He could do what my SO and I do. We only buy what we're going to eat in the next few days. We're not into much prepackaged or canned food and the fresh stuff goes bad quick. So, it usually results in several small trips to the grocery store each week. (Fortunately my SO makes most of these small trips. I usually just go to Whole Foods on the weekend to get my goat dairy fix and some odds and ends. lol.) Anyway, there are moments where we have no food - usually means on of us is making a trip later in the day or stopping at the store on our way home.

I could see the forgetting to eat thing - especially if he were like me when I'm alone studying on the weekend. lol. Thing is - Matt gets a lot of physical activity. I know this rugby player at school and he's always planning carefully to get this huge amount of calories on a schedule and cooking chicken breasts and things. (I once asked him and he said it was something like 4,000+ or so if memory serves.) I'd assume being the Devil of Hell's Kitchen would be about as demanding or more. So, he must be eating something...

I recognize one of the brands of jelly he had out on the table when he was making breakfast for Claire. (I think that was the scene I noticed it. It was on the table at one point.) Anyway, I found it amusing because it's definitely organic. http://www.santacruzorganic.com/products/fruit-spreads I also think that brand tends to be over-priced, but I'd probably buy it in a pinch, if that were my only option and I needed a jelly for some reason. (I put a lot of thought into keeping our food prices down, but organic doesn't have to be expensive if you do it right - sometimes it even comes out cheaper.)

Maybe he does eat a lot of rice? It's not the worst thing you could eat. It's calories. And, maybe he makes chicken, vegetables, and what not, but at the time he was just out of leftovers? He could have even had fresh chicken in the fridge, when Karen was there, but nothing prepared and wouldn't want her to wait 50 minutes for it to cook? *shrugs*

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stardreamed

(Actually - there were chicken breast, he could've pan fried it in about 16 minutes. Maybe he was out of food...)

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prepare4trouble

Maybe he couldn't be bothered. It had been a pretty long day for both of them. It wouldn't just be cooking the chicken, you'd need something to go with it, he might have felt the need to offer her something other than water to drink, he might have had something in but not felt equip to actually provide a meal, Takeout is always easier!

Or yeah, maybe he just didn't have anything. I think comics Matt gets his food delivered, maybe it was the day before the delivery came?

I see you've posted fic. I'm going to resist reading it now because it's about twenty past one and I need to be up to take my niece to karate tomorrow. If I read it, I know I'll end up writing something!

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stardreamed

Probably it just makes for a better scene, but yeah - takeout is way easier. :)

Yeah, in the comics he has it delivered. :) Have you been reading the new stuff by Charles Soule? It's feeling like an AU. I can't wait to see where he's going with it. (Needs more Foggy, though.)

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prepare4trouble

No, I've not read any of that yet. I read comics on Marvel Unlimited now, because it just got too expensive to keep buying them (I was buying a lot at one point! But unfortunately that puts me a few months behind the rest of the world. I've been keeping up with what's going on though. TBH, I'm not sure i'm going to like it.. Maybe it's the reviews on The Other Murdock Papers putting me off, because she's not that impressed. I'm looking forward to giving it a go though... Are you enjoying it?

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stardreamed

I like it and I don't like it. If that makes any sense. I think my fav eras were Bendis & Maleeve and Brubaker & Lark. Though, I don't think the new stuff is bad. It's different. I like his apprentice, too. And the 4th one with Captain America was really good. But, I think the big thing it's missing is Matt's civilian identity. He's Daredevil, like all the time. *shrugs* It's like why'd he bother putting the genie in the back in the bottle re his worst kept secret if he wasn't going to be Matt Murdock? *shrugs*

But, I'm guessing that it's an upcoming plot point, so I'm reserving judgment. That and it's fun to watch what effect his decision makes on all his other relationships. It's having really weird effects. I think Blindspot is the only one not effected and that's just because he'd met him later and doesn't know Matt.

The other thing that amuses me - you might have noticed my AO3 is empty - but there are like, two fanfiction.net accounts that I've forgotten how to log into out there somewhere I think - I used to kind of do that - make almost weird quasi-AU's out of things. (Like, one, wasn't technically AU because it fits the time-line, but it was in this post-apocalyptic future where some characters had been cryogenically frozen for an unknown number of years and after they woke up would encounter reincarnated versions of the characters that weren't frozen. Weird? Yeah, I know.) Anyway, I half wonder if Daredevil were given to me 10 years ago if I'd have done something weird like this. LOL. So, yeah. Not judging. But I miss Matt Murdock and I miss Foggy.

And I have a feeling Foggy should be wicked justified in being angry at Matt - who knows what this mess Matt's included him in is doing to him. If Matt's relationships are all messed up, what about Foggy's?? I hope we get to see that later... (If not, I'm writing it. LOL.)

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prepare4trouble

You've just succeeded in making it sound a lot better than anything else I've read about it. Hopefully it'll come onto Unlimited soon. I really don't know how I feel about the lack of Foggy though, and I've heard the thing about him being Daredevil rather than Matt all the time. It does put me off, I read mostly for Matt and Foggy...

Your fic sounds interesting though, what fandom was it for? But comparing something like that to what is actually happening in the DD comics... I'm interested to read them, but I'm already hoping things are going to be fixed and put back to normal!

I'm actually tempted to go and but the comics just to see what I think, but I won't, because then I'll keep buying them, and then Ill start thinking what's the harm in getting this one too, or that one, and before I know it, I'll be buying ten a month, and thinking about filling in in gap in my back issues (I have a lot of comics going back to the early 90s when i started reading them) So no. Must resist! :)

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stardreamed

It should. They're on issue 6, and unlimited is 6 months behind. So probably by next month, I'm guessing. :)

Oh God, I'll just die of embarrassment. LOL. The one I was thinking of is from, like 15 years ago. The writing was actually really good. But, the fandom... I think I deleted that stuff off ff.net, anyway, now that I think of it. Actually, at one point I had begun rewriting it into it's own original sci-fi story. I know I had posted that somewhere, but I don't have a copy saved anywhere. (Lost it when one of my laptops died.) *shrugs* Anyway, I guess where I was going was that people from the original timeline were essentially interacting with AU versions of people.

This thing, whatever he did, (I'm guessing he asked Dr. Strange to do this, like Peter Parker had? Maybe?) I think it changes people that he'd had personal relationships with, their timeline and everything... It also damages their relationship with him because they really don't know him anymore. (Part of why it's painful to read.) I wonder what happens if he just confesses what he did? I think I liked it best when his identity was a badly kept secret, but the world at large didn't know for sure.

LOL I was like that - starting from the early 90's... Awes. I think my big obsession with comics started after Superman died. I loved Reign of the Supermen, back in the day... Anyway, from there I ended collecting a bunch. At one point I think I was up to 5 subscriptions. LOL. But I made myself stop after Zero Hour. (But, I'd still end up buying graphic novels, occasionally, so... *shrugs*) It feels really nostalgic to be collecting again. I think I can keep it down to one. I hope. (Spider-Gwen really tempts me, so... Especially with Matt Murdock as the Kingpin... O.o Love it...) But, yeah, too expensive...

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stardreamed

(Not that it matters - maybe it wasn't Zero hour that killed it - that was '94? Really? Maybe it was a story-line like Zero Hour that I didn't like because it killed off stuff I liked with little fanfare. I know I subscribed to Peter David's Supergirl in the late 90's, plus a few others then. I was definitely in college when I stopped. *shrugs*)

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prepare4trouble

Well, 15 years ago I was writing Pokemon fanfic, really badly written stuff about Team Rocket, so I doubt you have anything to be embarrassed about!

I imagine they'll reveal what it was he did at some point. Foggy's pissed with him about it though, right? So probably something pretty bad. I could read the comics online and get up to date, but I'm nervous about those sites, they are often full of spyware and viruses. But yeah, they should start creeping onto Unlimited soon. Hopefully. I liked when it his identity was the worlds worst kept secret too, but I guess that couldn't have lasted forever. I like the more light hearted fun stuff, and it sounds like this series really isn't that! Though, if everyone's forgotten now, maybe they could find out again, and he could deny it again... Probably not though!

I was never really into DC comics. My dad used to read Superman when I was a kid though, so I used to read his. I remember the death of Superman stuff. In fact he still has all his comics up in the attic somewhere, boxes and boxes of Superman, Batman, Spawn and Powers, he stopped getting them for the same reason I did, I think, though much earlier. I started off with X-Men maybe around '94, my dad bought me one when he got went to get his Superman ones, because I was into the cartoon. I think he regretted it when I became obsessed. I got back issues going back to the late 80s and continued buying them for maybe 20 years, picking up a whole bunch of other titles along the way. It's a shame I stopped really, I don't like having an incomplete collection!

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stardreamed

LOL Ok. It was... DBZ. (Still embarrassed. LOL.)

Yeah, you're probably better off waiting - Foggy is only in the first issue. :( I think Matt did something really questionable, too.

I loved that X-men cartoon! (Though, I tried to watch an episode again recently and it didn't seem to hold the test of time,I guess. *shrugs* Very 90's. lol.)

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prepare4trouble

Really? That's too bad. I've been re-watching a lot of my old favorite cartoons recently with me niece. She's 5 and just starting to get into stuff that isn't Peppa Pig, I've been showing her Thundercats, my first TV obsession, and she loves it. She has also got me back into TMNT. The latest series is pretty good, much better than the one I used to watch (though the original song was better!) But most things seem to hold up pretty well considering. She's already a Captain America and a Hulk fan though, she probably doesn't need introducing to the X-Men too just yet!

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stardreamed

Aww... Bet it would be great for her. (Anyway, it's not like I saw a ton of it, and I had my SO in my ear... We're both nerds, but our opinions on things differ - he was probably just showing me something that really stank - maybe not the best judge for the entire series.)

That's cool that you get to do that with her! :) (I loved Thundercats & TMNT, btw)

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prepare4trouble

All very good points I just have this head cannon where Matt just doesn't bother taking care of himself but focuses way too much on looking after everyone else. People that he doesn't know as well as his friends. So in my mind it makes sense that he just wouldn't have food in, he didn't get around to buying any because he was too busy trying to save the entire population of Hell's Kitchen. But you're right, the amount of physical activity he does in the average night he's have to eat a lot to keep himself from collapsing!

Rugby huh? I didn't even know that was a thing in the US. Sports nutrition means very little to me, mostly because I have no interest in sports, but 4000 calories is about twice what the average person consumes in an average day. It's surprisingly easy to achieve if you eat junk food, but not so much if you eat real food. (although having said that, I actually have no idea about calorie contents of meat, I just know it'd be difficult for me to come close to that without gorging on pringles!) So yeah, he must be eating. Probably so much that Foggy wondered what the hell was going on, back before he knew!

It makes perfect sense for Matt to eat organic foods. I'm glad they showed that much attention to detail, even if I didn't notice.

No, rice is definitely not the worst thing you could eat. When I can't be bothered thinking of something to cook, I still just make rice, maybe sprinkle some chill powder on it or crumble up some nori. Cheap and yummy :-) I learned that from a friend at uni.

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stardreamed

LOL. I like that, too. He probably doesn't bother to take care of himself enough... But he probably still has to eat a lot, even if it's not enough.

Makes me wonder what Mike's been eating? I mean, how does he get groceries? Maybe they have an inheritance, and Mike just spends it frugally? Or maybe Stick feeds him when he's around?

I didn't think it was a thing in the US either. :) But, yeah, apparently my school has a rugby team and it's doing really well.

I only caught it because it's a familiar label. I like their chocolate sauce - it's dairy free which is huge for me. (It's hard to find chocolate that isn't milk chocolate.) That and they make real organic ketchup. (It's way better than Heinz!) But, their fruit juice is wicked expensive. And, it's from concentrate, so I don't see why they think they can charge that much. Anyway...

Never tried the chili powder thing? Sounds cool. I'm always looking for simple recipes. Think that's something Matt could make in the dorm? I went looking for dorm recipes and found some interesting stuff.

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prepare4trouble

Good point, I have no idea what or how Mike will eat. Maybe that's another reason why he likes impersonating Matt so much - easier access to food. They did have a certain amount of money from the bet their dad made (assuming history played out the same in this world) but a certain amount of it went to Stick, and I'm assuming that a lot went on college fees too? But if that was Matt's half of the money (I can't see him taking it all for his education and leaving his brother with nothing!) then Mike would have a fair chunk of cash.

Then again, in the original history I'm assuming that Matt doesn't have a lot of money stashed away, so maybe there won't be much left for Mike :-(. Maybe he paid for college some other way or got a scholarship?

I don't know if Stick would feed him, he doesn't seem the type, he would want him to be self reliant. I bet he's a master of getting hold of cheap food, probably doesn't eat that well, and maybe sometimes the people that he saves will give him something? There's Matt too, no way he'd let his brother starve... I bet if he found out Mike wasn't eating right, he'd try to get him to move in with him, or insist on feeding him. (And I bet Mike would find that hilarious because he was stalking Matt the other day and he didn't see him eat anything from leaving the apartment in the morning to getting back quite late at night)

Not sure if he could make the rice and chili thing in the dorm. Would they have access to cooking facilities there. You can apparently cook rice in the microwave, but I never have, or he could have an electric rice cooker.

It's pretty easy to find non milk chocolate here. There's a great brand called Green and Blacks that do really nice dark chocolate. My sister went vegan for a while and introduced me to it. I don't know if they exist in America though. They have taken the vegan label off the packaging now though, because they make milk chocolate in the same factory and there is a risk of cross contamination.

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stardreamed

LOL, yeah. I bet he uses his ID to access Matt's meal plan. :) (Though, I think Matt would notice it come out of his account? Maybe not though. I've never done the dorm thing, so I don't know how immediately obvious it would be.) Maybe he eats Matt's leftovers and fruit.

Matt could have a mix of financial aid, scholarships and loans. He wouldn't have to start paying on loans until 6 months after he stops school, so I think he'd be fine on that front. Him being a good student, in financial need, and blind... I bet he gets a lot of aid and scholarships. Maybe not enough, but hopefully makes things livable.

Not sure if Stick would feed him, either. I also like the idea of Matt being a hypocrite about the food. LOL.

Never done the dorm thing, so I'm not sure what's realistic. Maybe in some setups there is a shared kitchen? But, how would they pay for the food? Maybe Matt had a summer job or something?

Green and Blacks rings a bell. I don't think I've had it, though. I do have to worry about cross-contamination, I think. (I know I do with gluten. Not sure how sensitive the cow milk thing is, but not sure if I want to find out. It wouldn't kill me, it's just doesn't feel good.) There are a few chocolates I know of, just not a ton. I usually find them in specialty stores. I also have cocoa powder I can bake with or make hot cocoa, so plenty of ways to get my chocolate fix, I guess.

I bet you'd like the bakeries I go to - the gluten-free, dairy-free baked goods are often also egg-free, so they're vegan. :) (A little expensive, so haven't been in a while, but omg, so good! lol. Though, I don't expect things to taste like wheat, so my definition of good isn't the same to some people, I guess.)

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stardreamed

Was thinking... Maybe Matt got a huge settlement from the accident that took his sight. Maybe they put it in a special needs trust account. So, the trustee does payout what's necessary to take care of his basic health, safety, welfare, and educational expenses. It would also explain why they weren't suddenly rich - Jack would've wanted that money to be reserved to take care of Matt. So, basically, there's money, but Matt has no control over it and he can't spend it - instead it has to be used to pay directly for things that directly benefit him. *shrugs*

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prepare4trouble

Yes, That's entirely possible. It might also explain why Mike didn't go to college, because he doesn't have some fund paying for it. Matt would insist that doesn't need to stop him, and tell him that if he takes out loans to pay for it, they will pay them back together, but Mike's real reason for not going is Stick. Maybe when Mike says he's not applying because of money, Matt can think he's jealous and point out that he really wouldn't want to have gone through what Matt did in order to get his college degree paid for. Maybe they even have an argument about it. I dunno, random ideas. But yes, that makes a to of sense.

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stardreamed

Works for me. (And yeah, Mike would probably get financial aid, scholarships and such to ease the sting... plus, there's always Community College for your gen ed stuff, then transfer on for your major. Huge way to save.)

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prepare4trouble

I;m not sure how things work as regards food in dorms. I never did that either, I went into a shared house and we were self catering, so we just made our own food. There were catered dorms, but I don't know how it worked, not many people went into them because they were so much more expensive. Maybe Matt didn't notice because Mike was careful about it, but when Matt finds out he's there, he starts being more blatant about it just because he can!

Is that how student loans work over there? I didn't know that. It's a little different here. What about if you don't get a job right away? Like when Matt and Foggy went on to law school would they be able to defer beginning to pay off their loans from undergrad until they finished there? What about if they were interning and not getting paid? Or is it six months and you start paying regardless. This isn't relevant to the sorry I don't think, I'm just interested.

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stardreamed

Yeah, there are a lot of really good schools in my area, so I never saw the purpose of going to the dorms. I've also never taken out student loans - though I'm going to need to, soon. (I had a scholarship my first 3 semesters back that paid for half.) At least they won't be too huge.

Yeah, that's how it works. I think during the recession, back when they extended everyone's unemployment, they also gave some extra relief for new grads that didn't find a job right away. But, things went back to normal, so if you don't find a job... *shrugs* I bet L&Z was a paid internship. They probably made some really good money. All the internships I've had were paid. And, other students I've known who interned/were interning, they were usually paid. (Unpaid internships exist, but they usually don't lead to jobs that I know of.)

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prepare4trouble

Ah right. I hear internship, I think unpaid. Otherwise it;s a temp job that might lead to something permanent. Maybe it's different in the legal profession, or maybe that's just my perception of it. I remember internships in general got a lot of bad press a few years ago here because companies were using them as unpaid labor in order to save money, then getting rid of them and taking on someone else after a few months. I don't actually know anyone who's ever done one though, so I know nothing about it.

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stardreamed

Wow. I guess there were some instances of that in the U.S., but never came across it in my personal experience. But, yeah, I think our avocados were making pretty decent money. At least more than they'd ever seen. Otherwise, another firm would have nabbed them. What makes interns attractive is that they don't have to commit to them. Or pay benefits, for that matter, probably. *shrugs* But, they're still an investment - training has to go into them. That, and I'm sure they want talent. :)

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