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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Summary part 1

Okay, so here’s the prompt that started it all:

An AU where Matt is an identical twin. His brother's name is Mike Murdock and they were both trained by Stick. Mike is sighted - it was still Matt who saved that old guy. Stick favored Matt because he's blind and has those senses until Matt gives him the bracelet. So Stick proceeds to cut him off but continues Mike's training. Mike is maybe a bit of a jerk (like the pretend version in the comics, though maybe some of his behavior comes from growing up under Stick's influence) and he gets into the vigilante business while Matt and Foggy are in college. When Foggy finds out what Mike is up to, he doesn't approve, but he's just so glad it's not his blind best friend, Matt. Of course, Mat, being Matt, still gets into trouble sometimes, probably tries to help his brother, but that defining moment, where he beats up that girl's father doesn't happen. Instead Matt complains about it when talking to his brother Mike and Mike does it instead...

(I can just picture the scene where Claire wants to call the man she pulled out of the dumpster "Mike". LOL Whether it's Matt or Mike she saves is up to you.)

Someone added this piece of angst:

Mike has a complex because Stick really wants Matt (and loves Elektra more) and Mike is a consolation prize, terrified that he'll be kicked to the curb like Matt was
It adds a delicious chewy caramel layer to his assholery
Our discussion then started in the present day, when someone said
Wonder if he terrorizes Foggy a bit just because he's Matt's best friend?

which led to
And because Matt's never there when he does, Foggy grows suspicious that Mike is Matt messing about, and no matter how much Matt tries to convince him he's wrong, Mike is more determined to keep him believing it

Maybe Mike will grab one of Matt's spare canes and a pair of shades and impersonate Matt to Foggy. Eventually Matt and Foggy have to come up with a code or something to prove who is who. (Or, maybe, eventually, Foggy can just tell.)

oh, maybe the big reveal is Matt and Mike duking it out in one epic tussle and Foggy looking on with his mouth gaping wide...
Not only are there two of them, but they're nijas. lol

Maybe Mike is jealous that Matt has a Foggy. Not that he'd admit it, Stick wouldn't like that, and he has a proud streak, but he is.
Foggy doesn't know this, but Mike totally saved him from getting mugged one evening.

He talked about it the next day, but only while he was pretending to be Matt, so Foggy still has no idea it wasn't him…


Maybe Mike tends to accumulate more buises, so sometimes it'll give him away... Only Mike's been making sure to get Matt into some fights so they look more alike. LOL
Oh, and he totally messes with Matt's clothing system in hopes Matt goes about in weird color combos…

And it totally works, but Foggy thinks his new style is awesome.

omg.. lol!! Yes. And, of course, when Matt finds out, he's horrified…

He gets so paranoid about what he's wearing he starts texting (out of focus and sometimes pointed the wrong way) selfies to Foggy before he dares leave his apartment.

Yes!! Totally cannot show up to court all mismatched or in an outfit that's been stained. (Where did that neon green dress shirt come from??)
Foggy saves these selfies and posts the best of them to Facebook for Karen to see…

Mike is able to infiltrate Matt's dorm and apartment so easily without Matt knowing because they smell alike and use the same unscented toiletries and laundry soap... (That, and sometimes Matt's worried and just plain old lets his brother crash on the couch, use his shower, etc.)

I bet they do that twin thing, where neither of them have much in the way of real personal boundries with each other.

So to summarize this, Mike is kind of a lovable asshole who turns up and messes with Matt and, by extension, Foggy. He enjoys either breaking into Matt’s apartment, or sometimes it’s when he’s invited, and switching the labels around on his clothes, resulting in hilarious wardrobe choices that Foggy is pretty impressed with. There’s a possibility that he’s also bringing in clothes (neon green shirts, etc!) and adding them to Matt’s collection. When Matt finds out (how? don’t know yet.) he isn’t very happy about it, and responds by texting selfies to Foggy before he leaves his apartment each day. Of course, Matt’s not great with photos, so sometimes he has the phone switched to the wrong camera or the picture is totally out of focus.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Does this make Matt and Mike Raina and Nimah from Quantico? Re: the "matching"?

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I have no idea what that means, but it sounds like fun..!

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

In "Quantico" there are twin women training to be FBI agents, Raina and Nimah. A big chunk of their storyline is that their future assignment will require them to pretend to be each other, so they dress the same, mimic their mannerisms and overall "match". So something like what's been described here: Mike "matching" Matt and pretending to be him.

Hey, maybe it's a skill Stick forced him to train?

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Ooh, could be. There are all kinds of times something like that could be useful. Maybe he wanted Matt to be able to act like Mike too, but obviously that will be more difficult for him, acting like he could see, so mostly it's Matt's personality they are working with and Mike had to spend a lot of time basically being Matt in various situations. Which could lead to some resentment, actually. But it also meant he can do a very very good impersonation of his brother. Good enough to fool Foggy.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe Mike still had to mimic Matt after Stick ended Matt's training... And, of course, he became resentful of it, especially after Stick had made him think he was blind.

So, the stuff with Mike impersonating Matt, maybe that was an occasional training exercise Stick asked him to do... (But the dickery with Foggy in the dorm to get at Matt, that's all Mike. LOL)

It probably also means Mike had to keep up a certain level of education - enough that he could pass if you didn't get too deep into it.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I'm sure that was all Mike, just using the skills he's got, because why let them go to waste?

Re education I imagine he finished high school , but didn't go to college. But knowing he might need to smart talk his way into people believing he was Matt in the future, he got all the info he needed from Matt and Foggy's books. Matt's when he was in the room being Matt, and Foggy's when he stole them. Foggy noticed quite a few books going missing over the course of his college years. Mike never stole from Matt because reading by sight is easier for him, and he knows what a pain in the ass it is for Matt to get the books in Braille in the first place.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I bet that means Mike has read Thurgood Marshall a ton... :) Maybe he finds it inspiring, too.

I also bet he gets copies of all their syllabi so he knows what they're up to. (Think they use Courseworks at Columbia... He could login as them and print it at the library or save it to a flash drive. Either that or he could just take pictures of the originals from their notebooks with his phone...) Maybe Foggy keeps a calendar on google with all his assignments and plans - Mike totally gets that password, too.

I could totally see Mike holed up in some cramped and dingy room somewhere (or maybe on some random rooftop) in between missions cramming from one of Foggy's textbooks. LOL I wonder where he lives? I originally thought of him as homeless or a bit of a couch surfer. Maybe he lives in that abandoned building Stick was hanging out in during season 2?

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Or, maybe he just has a roll and a bag that he stashes somewhere... hmmm... It might be nice to have somewhere he accumulates weird odds and ends, a stack of textbooks, a couple paperbacks, a family photo album, maybe all hidden from Stick. (As much as that can happen.) When Matt has the apartment, maybe that's where his stuff lands. But, while he's in the dorm... It's not like he's still with the nuns, right?

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I can't see him couch surfing, because how many couches does he know? I don't imagine he has a huge network of friends. Homeless though... I don't think Matt would stand for that, he'd have him living with him, even though neither of them would be that happy with the arrangement!

Maybe he squats somewhere? Found an abandoned property, made it his own. You can actually get quite nice places that way if you're lucky. I know because my brother and some friends did it once.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

That's true about the couch surfing - I doubt he had much in the way of a network of friends. Especially since Stick wouldn't put up with that. But, to land on someone's couch, you don't always have to know them well, they just have to let you stay there. lol. Not the best thing, really. But I'm sure he's helped random strangers pre-mask or there's some sweet old lady from church who remembers his dad and feels bad for him or something... Maybe Fogwell caught him sleeping in the gym, during a nor'easter, recognized him, and offered the couch for the night. Who knows...

Abandoned property - that could work easy for a time. Of course, there wouldn't be much security. Maybe anything really important he already gave to Matt for safekeeping... Or will give to Matt for safekeeping... Like the childhood photo album. (I wonder if that would really sting since Matt can't look at it himself. Ouch.)

Mike and Matt as roomies... That could be fun... LOL

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Ooh, nic epic of angst there. I was actually writing something once about Matt having a photo album. I might have to revisit it.. But yeah, I can imagine Matt looking after his more important things, whatever they may be. I doubt he has many, mostly just childhood mementos. And maybe f one of them is a photo album or maybe just a stack of old polaroids, they could go through them together one night when they're not arguing, and Mike could tell him what each one is while they reminisce about old times...

But security could be fine in an abandoned place. Once you move in, you just get the locks changes, call the electricity company and tell them to reconnect you and just start living there. A squat doesn't have to be dirty and insecure.

Also you're right about a couch for the night from the people he saved, but you can't rely on that forever, a more permanent solution would need to be found eventually. Unless that's why he keeps bouncing in and out of Hell's kitchen, he moves around so he won't use up people's good will too quickly..

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Typo alert. Nice piece of angst, is what I was trying to say at the start there. Though epic fits too! :)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

LOL Thanks!! :)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

That's true... Like those people who move into empty foreclosed McMansions.... :) I'm trying to think what the NYC equivalent would be to that. But, I bet there's stuff all over the city if one knows where to look. And, Mike would.

I think my mind went to abandoned warehouses - probably because I live in a loft not too unlike Matt's. lol. (though, it's certainly not a corner apt, and uh, no obnoxious lighted sign or rooftop access...) I've got all this brick and pipe and weird industrial architecture inspiring me. (That and this place swallows up light like you wouldn't believe... I had to buy so many lamps... lol) I bet squatting would be a fun adventure, while it lasts. :)

Hey, I was thinking - one of the possible things Mike could do to get at Foggy - maybe make him think Matt is faking his blindness? Of course, that would have to happen right before the reveal that, yes, Matt isn't lying about the identical twin... Still kinda chewing on this.

I was also thinking, one of the big reasons Foggy thinks Matt's just messing with him about the twin is that Mike is way to knowledgeable... Even knows when stuff is due and what happened in lecture... In jokes, details about his family... LOL And, when Mike shows up, he's contrite and owns up to just messing with him. Again.

Oh, yeah, the other thing... Matt finds the photo album in the trunk. He has no idea what it is and Foggy to takes a peak over his shoulder. Mike has removed all pictures where the two of them are together - it looks like he's a single child... LOL (That and if we're playing with maybe Foggy thinking he's a talented faker - maybe the pictures are of Mike - no canes or shades in sight.)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I'm also a fan of abandoned warehouses for Mike, as long as it appears to be locked up and inaccessible so other people won't try to crash there too. Or maybe they can, but that would make it less secure and more like sleeping rough again. Which I bet he has done on occasion, but probably not as a long-term thing.

Maybe he could break into people's homes while they are away and live there until they get back. I read an article about a couple who got back from vacation to find a guy living there, doing his washing. He got arrested, not surprisingly! But I bet Mike'd be so good at that that when they came home they didn't even realize someone had been there. He's know the day they were due back and he'd be gone, leaving everything exactly as he found it. Or maybe even tidies the place up a bit, leaves a gift for them as a thank you, something they won't notice at first so they won;t think someone;s been there. I dunno, just an idea.

Making Foggy think that about Matt would be a cruel trick! Let's see how it could work...
I can't imagine that being a plan Mike comes up with just for fun, purely because it just seems mean and I don't think that's him, so how about this? Maybe before Matt ever mentions Mike to him, Mike gives away the fact that he can see accidentally, and knows Foggy noticed. Dunno how, maybe he took the shades off thinking he could pull it off, and accidentally looked him in the eye or something. When he's done kicking himself, he decides to have a bit of fun since he knows the pretending to be Matt thing is over anyway. So that, plus other stuff leads Foggy to confront Matt, who then tells him he has a twin. Foggy doesn't want to believe that Matt's lying, because then he's just making up some ridiculous story to cover up the insane lie he's been living, but it still seems impossible that there are two of them, and until he sees proof, he just can't believe it. Unfortunately, Mike is never around when Matt is, so proof is not forthcoming...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I love that image of him cramming between missions. Maybe even taking stuff with him to read while he's waiting for a bad guy to appear.

Oh! What if later on when Matt's a fully qualified lawyer, he's getting stressed about something and Mike offers him the perfect legal loophole. Matt would be all "How did you know that?" and Mike would lie about seeing on the Good Wife or something.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

LOL Yes!! And Matt makes a mental note ask Foggy about the Good Wife, see if it's any good...

Daredevil/The Man in the Mask seen parkouring over roofs with a textbook clutched to his side? So awesome...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Reading this, I'm realizing it does look like we had trouble starting to brew in present day... I'd actually been thinking it was back in the dorms when I'd been originally writing... (I wrote about Mike impersonating Matt to Foggy and about them duking it out in an epic tussle and big reveal to Foggy: not only are there two of them, but they're ninjas...) Then when things jumped to years later and Matt at the apartment, I just went with it. Not sure who I was bouncing off of, but that was fun. LOL. (Yeah, they're stuck with the lovable asshole and his antics for years... I figure the pranks come in waves, depending on things...)

Oh, and the part I said about Foggy finding out (back in the prompt), I was thinking about Foggy finding out that Mike is The Man in the Mask, not that Matt has a twin... Just to clarify. (I re-read it and wasn't sure how clear that was.) I figure that gets it's own separate Foggy freak-out maybe? Because, well, fun. :)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I also like that this change in the timeline gets Matt to fess up to Foggy way sooner, at a time when things are newer. Not that his secrets get out easy, though... (Or that they're necessarily believed, for that matter. LOL. "You have a twin who has super-hearing and that's how he knew something we only spoke about here, behind a closed door? Do you know what that sounds like?" "Um, yeah..." "No, I don't think that you do...")

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, that was probably my interpretation of what we'd written, plus the apartment stuff, but that could be when he makes another return during present day.

A lot of it makes more sense in the carefree college era anyway. I suppose it's the thing about Mike bring Daredevil, since Matt didn't do that Tim much later in the original history, but that doesn't mean Mike went the same way. After all, he doesn't have school to distract him, and he's been training a lot longer, fighting's kind of what he does.

So Foggy finds out about Mike back in college, including the daredevil thing. The super hearing though, would Matt even know Mike had that if he didn't know about Stick's extra special, super evil training? He could find out about that later, and maybe a little later he could find out Matt's got the same thing going on, and be pissed that he didn't tell him.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, right - good point. That's right - we'd set Matt finding out about Mike later, at the apartment. So, as the summary above stands, Matt wouldn't know necessarily how good Mike's senses are.

Actually, that could work out in our favor for how crazy things can get.

Then again, maybe Matt could know about his super-senses and just not know about the Stick-induced blindness?? Hmm... Actually, that sounds less plausible when I write it out. Yeah, I guess Matt doesn't know. Maybe he just figures Mike is really sneaky.

We might want to move up the timeline for that mission Mikey goes on where he chooses to drink the tea for Stick. Maybe Foggy will have to cope with an extra blind roomie. LOL

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

I must be tired - I just re-read your comment - we can leave the Stick-induced blindness episode where it is, too - the angst sounds kinda nice. LOL I need to get to bed. :)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

About Mike being Daredevil/The Man in the Mask - I think it happens earlier for him than it would have for Matt of the TV show time-line for exactly those reasons. I don't think he needed a defining moment that makes him decide to do it - it just happens organically. He'd been helping people all along. It was Matt who needed one because he'd been living that normal life and wanted to believe in the law and the system. So, later, the moment that would've been his in the TV show - Mike just ends up doing it without much fanfare. Maybe he didn't even give Social Services a chance to fail. Matt just hears that the problem is taken care of...

As to how he gets the name Daredevil and the costume... Maybe it happens in a similar way it did for Matt in the show, only it's Mike sort of working with Matt and Foggy to take down Fisk. (Though, he does a lot independently... Maybe they even have that scene in the alley where the Man in the Mask gives them the info on Leland Owlsley that they'd related to Karen in episode 13 - only this time it really happened. LOL) Anyway, without the Fisk thing, I'm not sure how Melvin would get involved to make the costume, so... *shrugs*

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, now that I think of it, we could alter Melvin's time-line a bit... Was he maybe the Gladiator & Mike had taken him down? Or maybe he was just something smaller time (& Mike still stopped him - maybe they had a surprising heart-to-heart) and he's already out on parole... Betsy can be his parole officer or shrink or both - I think that's what she was in the comics, and later they actually do get married and have a kid, if memory serves. So, away, knowing each other earlier could lead to Melvin wanting to help Mike with a better costume.