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Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Yeah, that's what I meant, I just wasn't clear. If he really wanted it to be permanent, it would be permanent. I was thinking he doesn't care either way - Mike is more useful without his sight than with it, because of his potential abilities. (He wouldn't deliberately make it permanent, but if it became that way, oh well? Bonus?? lol.)

Cumulative sounds good. I'll go with it. :)

The tea ceremony sounds cool. I was thinking that night, maybe after the ceremony, Stick puts him in restraints and "doses" Mike with the "chemicals" from Matt's accident... (It's really a placebo that stings a bit and there for show. Or, heck, maybe it's those eye drops they use at the optometrist's to dilate your pupils... So, that way, it even does something. LOL.)

Both piss Matt off and recruit him. I was thinking both scenarios - basically Stick's throwing a rock in the pond and hoping the ripples will work out to his benefit? (After season 2, he really, really seems like a master manipulator to me... Even in the last episode, they have him tied to a chair... Stick could've busted out of that easy. He was in the chair because he wanted to be... Everything was coming up Stick. LOL.)

Yeah... Re-traumatize him... yes... Poor, poor Mike... I like it. Now, does Matt know how worried Mike is about it being permanent? Also yes... =)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

The reason for the drops - I was thinking that Stick is trying to simulate the trauma that Matt experienced - maybe just in case it wasn't enough to go blind to bring out his abilities, but a perfect storm of things? (That and it would distract from his real method of delivery - the tea...)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Oh, you know... Maybe the drops are over the top. The tea ceremony might be simplier - just if that's the delivery and Mike figures it out... How does he get another dose or two in? Add it to his soup? (Actually, with the super senses, would Mike taste it? Or, does everything taste strange and powerful and too much?)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Hmm, not sure about the drops. I do think it's a good idea, but how would you explain Stick's thinking re trauma as a catalyst without him saying so. I'm assuming this part will all be Mike's POV? Actually, since Mike has no idea about any of this, it might just be better to leave it alone; he thinks he's blind, he thinks it's permanent, he's trying to deal with it. The tea, the drops (also, if Stick starts messing with his eyes, wouldn't that make him think that maybe he was re-administering something and have him suspicious that the situation isn't what it appears?) could all just be random things that happen, but since it's not being explained to him, it can't really be explained to the reader. We want this scene to be kind of scary, too much explanation might take away from it. Might not even need to mention the tea at this point, not I think of it, we don't have to document every thing that happens to him. Unless you particularly want it in, of course, which is fine.

It could be explained later by Mike to Matt I guess, but is it really needed, or is that scene going to be about the b=very basics, Stick hurt his brother, Matt is pissed.

Not sure, basically. Which is no help whatsoever! Sorry :)

Sorry also that this response is so rushed and weird, I've got a letter all 10 minute lunch break today and I;m running the branch. So much stress! :)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Okay, I might have an idea. I was thinking about this all the way home form work!

What happens the first time Stick doses him with the evil!tea? I think before, in the other comm we said Stick knocks him out and doses him while he’s unconscious? What if instead of that, when Mike agrees to take his training to the next level, Stick gives him the evil!tea than, like it’s some kind of thing they do when someone enters that stage of training. It doesn’t take effect straight away, it takes a little while. In the meantime, Stick pins him down and puts something in his eyes. Doesn’t have to drip it in with a dropper either, he could have a really unhygienic looking flask filled with this stuff, then he pins him down, holds his eyes open and literally pours the stuff over him...

It’s around that time that the tea starts taking effect. Whatever’s in the stuff in his eyes makes then sting and burn, but it’s really just a mild irritant and it’s the evil!tea that’s doing the damage.

That way, even if he would have been suspicious of the tea before, the fact that something got poured in his eyes and that’s when he stopped being able to see would leave little doubt that that was what had done it. Even if he was given the tea again later, I don’t think he’d suspect.

So Stick gets his trauma as a catalyst, and Mike probably gets nightmares for the rest of his life.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Oh God, yes. That's what we're looking for. That sounds much more like a Stick thing to do, too. And the fact that Mike agrees to take it to the next level... That'll haunt him. :) It's not real, informed consent, but it'll make him kick himself for agreeing, maybe make him take some responsibility for his situation? (So f-ed up...)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Poor Mike, convinced the whole thing is his own fault even through there's no way he could have predicted that Stick would pull that shit. Maybe Stick could even tell him if he gets upset about it (I bet he's got the same temper Matt has, so I can imagine him getting really frustrated and angry at some point, shouting and yelling, maybe punching Stick.) that if he didn't think he could handle it, he shouldn't have agreed. Maybe he told him something really vague about this new level of training that with hindsight it's clear what he meant but at the time it didn't really mean anything.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Actually, random thought. What if that's when Mike's senses start to kick in, maybe even without him noticing. He gets so frustrated about whatever Stick's trying to make him do that he can't, than he starts raging, yelling, screaming crying, whatever, and in his rage, he actually attacks Stick. Stick pretty quickly subdues him, but when he has he points out that Mike was putting up a decent fight, plus managing to block him. When Mike's calmed down, Stick has him try whatever they were doing again, and he can do it.

Also, I was thinking Stick should be a bit nice to him sometimes. Like that time for example. In this kind of gruff way that's actually not that nice. He gets that Mike's scared and angry, but it's working. Maybe tells him he's proud of him or something...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't have agreed... To have that thrown in his face would sting... I really like the anger angle. I think it's the way to go. And Stick being "proud" of him... Oh, poor Mike....

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Yeah... Re-traumatize him... yes... Poor, poor Mike... I like it. Now, does Matt know how worried Mike is about it being permanent? Also yes... =)

I'd assume he doesn't know that, because Mike wouldn't tell him. Maybe this is just me, but if I'm convinced something awful is going to happen, I keep my mouth shut about it. It's some kind of a superstition, like giving voice to the fear invites it in. So I think he wouldn't even tell Matt that it being permanent was a possibility. In fact, he might make a huge thing of the fact that it's not permanent, that he's done it a bunch of times before and he is completely fine "so please stop worrying, Matt, You're not the only Murdock who can get around in the dark, you know," Or something.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

You're right - Mike definitely wouldn't tell him. I don't think he'll ever stop keeping secrets. But, I think Matt knows him well enough that he's suspicious. Especially if it lasts longer than Mike initially said it would...

You're not the only Murdock who can get around in the dark, you know... LOL

I think both their POVs will be fun to right when we get to this. Maybe Matt finds that he likes that there's someone who percieves the world the way he does - but he's also horrified by that fact because he'd never wish this on anyone, especially his brother?

I wonder if Stick gave him a particularly strong dose this time? Hmmm...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Probably did, and told him it was a small dose that would probably wear off by the next day. Then it doesn't...

I think Matt would definitely have mixed feelings about the whole thing, when he gets over the anger. Maybe with his additional years of fighting training, Mike is actually more capable than he is when it comes to combat without vision. Not at he everyday stuff, just fighting. Maybe he can even show Matt a thing or two...

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

LOL I like it. Instead it lasts 6 or 7...

It would make much more sense for Mike to be the much better fighter now, overall. (Though maybe, in the beginning, before he dropped Matt and took Mike to... "the next level", Matt had the advantage?) I also wonder if this Matt would have been as motivated to keep up with the training all those years if he had a brother. (Then again, maybe he's better because he had Mike to spar with and teach him new things.) I wonder how it would change him having more emotional support growing up? Of course, it goes both ways with him & Mike, but I figure Mike has a big negative against his emotional/mental health with all that extra exposure to Stick as he's not a healthy influence.

I wonder if Matt ever switched with Mike? Like, if he ever wanted to do stuff people would assume he needs sight for, like ride a bicycle? Hit the batting cage? lol. (Maybe after Foggy is in the know about Mike but not about their senses, Matt decides to hit a few balls or take Mike's bike for a spin and runs into Foggy? LOL)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

I just had this zany thought. (I'm working on homework and my subconscious or whatever starts throwing ideas at me about this instead, I guess. lol) Mike gets accused of being the Man in the Mask... So Matt shows up. (And they'd never believe it's Matt standing in for him because he's blind, right?) It's just the... it's that he actually is the Man in the Mask in the show, but for our story it's a weird element, him being the 'normal' one, I think that's tickling me. Dunno.

I wrote some stuff last night - very nearly posted it. Still on the fence because I think it could us away from some of the crazy antics. (Kind of like what happened with the fluff. lol. I blame Matt and Mike for that...) After I get my hw in shape tonight I'll take another look at it. (Stuff I wrote was more conversation with Matt and Mike and some of Matt's observations as Mike left. Actually, it's probably fine and I was just overtired.) Anyway, I was thinking - maybe Foggy wasn't in the library after all? Instead, maybe Foggy has an hour and a half class somewhere across campus. Mike decides to go talk to him... Almost fesses up, but then doesn't? He wanted to do it for Matty, but then he either chickens out, or thinks to himself that he'll just do it later...

I was thinking maybe Mike is afraid to have a normal life and normal friends... But he wants some normal friends. So, maybe he likes hanging out with Foggy as 'Matt'? One final hurrah out on the town before he thinks Foggy will say good riddance? (And maybe Matt gets pissed? lol Such a temper sometimes... Maybe lead into that epic fight in front of Foggy?)

I also had a thought about our time-line. We've been saying that it's been 6 months since they've seen each other. In the US, the school year for high school students ends the tail end of June. So, that puts them into January? (If he splits with Stick after graduation. Maybe it's later...) The spring semester starts the last week of February, generally. If school has been in session a few weeks, that's March... ? (Originally, I'd been thinking this was the fall semester, but then I realized it wouldn't work - besides if they're in the spring semester, it would have given Matt and Foggy time to become good friends? And Foggy to know what pre-Mike times looked like?) So maybe Mike stuck around until Matt started at Columbia? (I'm also thinking he never really left, Matt just thought he did? Because of the letter?) So, maybe this is March?

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Ohhh.. Maybe Matt notices Foggy's absence, goes out looking, suspecting Mike. Maybe that's how it happens? Their epic tussle?

(I was thinking maybe Matt thought it was a Stick related thing at first, and then he thinks it's not? Or doesn't care if it is? So he maybe goes out looking? Maybe does some parkour? Doesn't know about Josie's, so it takes a while? Here he'd been thinking it was serious, but instead they're out for drinks without him? *shrugs*)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[(Anonymous)]

Ohh.. Maybe Matt introduces himself as 'Mike' to Foggy... LOL

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Haha, I kinda like that.

Only trouble is, it'd just re-inforce the Matt's making stuff up thing that Foggy's got in his head.

Oooh, unless Matt's just doing it to mess with him. Like Mike and Foggy are hanging out, Mike in disguise, and Matt goes over to them and and and introduces himself. Foggy would be so baffled. Especially when it turned out that Mike was Matt and vice versa. Matt explains that Mike was never going to appear as himself, so Matt did it for him. Not like Mike can complain with what he's been up to recently!

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

That sounds cool, but I'm not sure how it would work. Does Matt try to convince people he's the man in the mask? Or does someone snap a photo of Mike taking his mask off and everyone's trying to work out who it is, so Matt has to come forward and claim it was him doing... something vaguely plausible but totally unlikely... and people just kind of believe him because he clearly has the right face, and there's no way he could be Daredevil. If we can come up with a way to make it work it could be pretty awesome.

I read the stuff you posted, I'm glad you decided to. Also, theres nothing wrong with fluff, I think this story probably needs a halted dose of it to get away from the angst overload! :) Yeah, he doesn't have to talk to Foggy now, he can do it whenever, so Matt doesn't know abut it. Maybe the fight should be a few weeks down the line from where we're at now, give Matt chance to be ignored a few more times when he tells Mike to fess up, give Foggy a few more chances to be confused about Matt inventing a brother, so Matt gets good and pissed about it all (he seems reasonably chill right now, just being happy that Mike's back in his life)
Also, you're right, the invited in thing does sound a bit vampire-y. I thought it when I wrote it, but I couldn't think of another way to say it. Might be best to change that!

Where do you think the story should go from here though? I'm thinking cut to Mike talking to Foggy, maybe Foggy's POV and him analyzing everything, trying to work out whether there could actually be two Murdocks, then deciding there is no way this isn't the same Matt he spoke to that morning but in different (way more hideous) clothes. That could be where h invites him out to Josies, maybe with the intention of telling him later, but gets distracted by some girl or decides to leave it a bit longer.

I'm definitely with you on the Mike vs friends thing. Also by this point in his life, he probably wouldn't know how to make a friend. It's not like he goes to school or has a job where he can meet people in a normal way. So even if he did want normal friends, which you're right he probably would be afraid to do, he probably wouldn't be able to, so he might be a bit jealous of Matt for that.

Dates etc, not sure. I guess Mike hasn't been around the whole time Matt's been at Columbia, or he would have mentioned him to Foggy, but when he actually disappeared, could have been after they graduated high school or before Matt moved into the dorm at college. The six month thing isn;t set in stone, but I'd say setting it around March time might be best, if we actually have to name a time of year, for the reasons you said. And yeah, he might not have been away really. He might have been keeping an eye on his brother. He might even have been impersonating Matt for longer than he realizes!

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Oh, I meant that Mike gets accused of being The Man in the Mask by someone, so Matt shows up in costume while Mike is there out there in plain clothes. And, yeah, they know he has an identical twin, but there's no way it could be Matt, he's blind... Though, come to think of it, this scenario would carry more weight if Mike actually had the beginning of some sort of regular life. Though, that other thing could work really well, too - Matt could say it was a Halloween costume. LOL Or, maybe he was going to Comic Con? That's in NYC and people cosplay... :)

Yeah - I think the fluff and fun should help balance out all the lovely angst. And yeah, I like the fight being a few weeks out.

Actually, I thought the vampirey statement was kinda cute for Mike - he does kind of show up almost like this otherworldly creature - the only one who knows he's there is Matt.

That works for me - if I had continued, I would've sent him after Foggy. Maybe Mike pretends to be distracted by a girl or whatever - he can't go back to the dorm where Matt is... Then Foggy is confused that when he arrives home Matt is already in bed asleep... LOL

Yeah, probably more than a little envious. Poor Mike.

Do you think Mike believes in Stick's war? Or is he with him because it's the only thing he can see himself doing? (Well, until maybe he has the Man in the Mask/Daredevil identity going for him for a while.)

LOL Yeah, maybe even on the first day... Had to make sure his brother was going to be ok. (Part of the reason I wanted to reason it out was to figure out the weather. Well, that and help me figure out what Mike is thinking.)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

I love the idea of Matt pretending to be Mike. Maybe that's even where Mike's think with pretending to be him started. Like, Matt really wanted to do something that he shouldn't really be able to do, and Mike says he can't becuase it'd look weird if the blind kid can suddenly hit the ball accurately every time, or whatever. But Matt says it won;t becuase the blind kid will be sitting over there, and hands him his cane and sends him to sit on a bench and pretend to read a book or something. So really, the switching thing is like Matt's fault becuase he started it!

Maybe Mike's even weirded out by the whole thing at first and convinced someone's going to notice, but they don't, and some people even come over and talk to him and he replies as Matt and they are fooled. Then he' shocked. Maybe they even seem to want to hang out with him more when he's Matt, so he does it more and more. Matt gets annoyed with it, but Mike says they're nicer to him as Matt. Matt's all "They're not being nice, they feel sorry for me." But Mike doesn't think he's right, (and he's actually not, they really do want to be his friend but Matt's stand-of fish becuase he's paranoid about why people want to be around him) and he's enjoying having friends end if he does have to be Matt to do it. Yeah, I might just have written a whole chapter in my head, actually..! But the point of all that was that when Matt is complaining bout Mike impersonating him, he tells him it was Matt's idea in the first place.

Dunno, would Mike teach Matt things when they were kids?. If Stick has dropped him as a student and now he knows what an asshole Stick is, MIke wants to keep him away from Matt, maybe he wouldn't becuase he wants to keep him safe. Or becuase he wants to have something that he's better at. But then later on when Matt finds out about the super senses and Stick's super evil training methods, Matt realizes Mike's actually better at some things while blind than he is, and he asks Mike for pointers.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Yes! I like that. Matt must get tired of having to play real-world blind all the time and finds a way out and loves it... And it could also be the beginnings of Mike thinking he can't have his own friends because of who he is, but likes that he can have them as 'Matt'. This all being Matt's fault is kind of hilarious, too. :)

That could be. That makes sense. If Matt keeps up his fighting skills, there's the danger that Stick might take him back and Mike doesn't want that. (And maybe to have something he's better at. LOL.) And so, maybe Matt keeps up on his own somewhat because his brother is off training with Stick. I like the idea of Mike being better at some things while blind... I'm guessing Stick may have wanted him to spend a good part of his training blindfolded to make him make use of his other senses.

(I read your comments on my cell while I was on lunch - today we had a luncheon... couldn't really whip out my tablet and keyboard... Then I had school after work. That's why I'm later than usual. Can't wait for Thursday...)

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Yeah, Matt might well have continued on his own, maybe pushing himself to do things and trying to heighten his awareness and hone his senses, but without guidance from Stick. Which he didn't have in the real timeline, and he did just fine. But Mike continued training for years with Stick after he dropped Matt, and even assuming Matt started out as better than him, the extra years of tuition must have made him better. If not, I'm sure Stick would have dropped him too, for not being good enough.

Talking of Stick dropping Matt from training, do you think it was for the same reasons in this world? And how do you think Matt will have reacted to the guy who was originally brought in to help him not wanting anything else to do with him, but continuing to train his brother (who he probably only started training in the first place because he was hanging around getting in the way!) Do you think Matt knew Stick was still training Mike? Because I can see that creating some major conflict between the brothers!

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

Talking of the later scene when Mike's blinded again, I wrote a thing. Kinda like an intro to that scene. Not sure that exactly you were thinking for how Matt realizes what's going on, but I had this little idea and it wouldn't go away. You want me to post it? Obviously we wouldn't have to use it.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[stardreamed]

Sure!! I'd love to see it. I'm really curious.

Re: Where Matt has a real identical twin named Mike who is sighted and is Daredevil

[prepare4trouble]

I was trying to come up with a way for Matt to notice something is wrong without Mike outright telling him, but without making it too obvious (like him bumping into something, because I don't think he would. I came up with this, but I dunno...




There is someone in his apartment.

Matt’s hand freezes on the door handle, key half way into the lock. He listens to the sound from within, the one that had given the intruder away. His heart rate is steady, unconcerned with the possibility if being caught. His presence is familiar. Matt relaxes as he recognizes it. Mike.

He opens the door and allows it to swing wide. “What are you doing here?” he asks, before Mike can say a word.

He can hear the grin in his brothers voice as he answers. “Lovely to see you too, Matt, and how are you this evening?”

Matt sighs and closes the door behind him. “Breaking into my apartment isn’t okay, Mike.”

“Who says I broke in?” Mike asks him. He rummages in his pocket and pulls something out, holds it aloft as though for Matt to inspect. “I have a key,” he says. “I didn’t think I’d need to use it though. Why are you so late back?”

Matt hangs up his cane and his jacket before sinking into the sofa. “Busy day,” he says. He decides to let the key thing slide for now, but sooner or later he is going to have to deal with it. Or get comfortable with Mike having easy access to his apartment. Which now he thinks about it, he probably does anyway. Not having a key had never seemed to be much of an obstacle for his brother.

Mike opens the refrigerator door and begins to rummage around inside. It isn’t well stocked, but Matt listens to him moving things around for a minute or two, then to the sound of two bottles of beer being placed on the counter top, and then more searching.

Mike's heart rate increases a little and he blows out a frustrated gust of air from between pursed lips. “Don’t you have milk?” he complains. “Literally the only thing in your kitchen that resembles snack food is this cardboard cereal, and you don’t have milk.”

“Third shelf, left side, behind the tomatoes,” Matt says automatically. It isn’t until his brain, still addled from the long day, catches up with his mouth that he realizes what had seemed so strange about Mike’s question.

He hears Mike pull the packet of tomatoes out and leave them on the counter, then the milk after it. “I’m leaving these out,” he says. “You don’t keep tomatoes cold, Matt. They have no flavor that way.”

“Why couldn’t you find it?” Matt asks softly as he listens to Mike pouring the milk over his stolen cereal that he must have helped himself to before Matt arrived, and grabbing a spoon from the drawer.

Mike scoffs quietly at the question and puts the carton of milk back where he got it. “Because you keep it in a stupid place. Why not leave it in the shelf on the door like a normal person?” He picks up his bowl in one hand and the two beers in the other. Matt hears then clinking together as he walks over to the sofa. Matt listens carefully to his footsteps as he does. Nothing sounds out of place. Or maybe it does. Is he walking a little slower than normal? A little more hesitantly?

The cold of the chilled bottle on the back of his hand is Matt’s signal to take it, which he does without thinking. Mike sits opposite him in a chair, puts his beer on the floor by his feet and begins to crunch his cereal.

“Mike?” he says.

Mike fills his mouth with a spoonful and talks around it. “Hmm?”

“Are you okay?”

Mike laughs. “I’m a bit beat up, but no worse than usual. He took me on a mission, some warehouse the enemy were using as a base of operations. Decided to make it a training exercise too, so…” he tailed off and shoved another spoonful of cereal into his mouth. “Hungry, though,” he added around the food.

“He… Stick?”

He is answered with silence for a moment. “Shit. I wasn’t going to mention it. Yeah, he’s back in town.”

Matt feels a slight chill at those words. He inhales deeply through his nose, searching the accumulated scents in the apartment for any hint that his former teacher had been there. He finds nothing. He relaxes just slightly, enough to realize that Mike’s accidental slip had been no accident, he was deflecting from Matt’s original line of questioning.

Somewhere deep inside Matt’s stomach, a creeping uncertainty began to spread. “What color is my t-shirt?” he asked.

“I haven’t been here for weeks,” Mike tells him. “I haven't switched anything around, honest.”

“Humor me,” Matt says. “Prove it.”

Mike sighs. “What does it matter what color it is, Matt? It’s just a t-shirt.”

Except it isn’t. He is wearing a suit.